With regard to small flies on larger tippet, I've fished size 22 zebra midges on 3X tippet on the Canyon section of the Henry's Fork and have caught many large and well educated trout. So yes, I agree and can attest to this working. I've found that when I see a fish refuse a fly its more than likely fly choice or micro-drag and not tippet size...Yellowstone Bound September 22, 2016
I barely ever use 7x...maybe on a few super tiny flies but I only buy a spool every year to keep it fresh not because its gone. I fished the highly technical South Platte in Co for the last 7 years...presentation is king. The really good fishermen never really use anything below 5x except on occasion for the tiny bugs. I used to use 6x and 7x on the Swift exclusively but realize after many years that I was probably casting from the wrong spot more often than not. You hit the nail on the head Ken..
to all readers here there is a lot of great information randomly dispersed throughout Kens blog...well worth the time to go through it-you will be a better angler. Thank Ken for his great blog. BobT
If you think you need 7x, 8x or smaller to catch trout on the Swift you are mistaken unless you are fishing on the surface. 5x and 6x will get it done down through size 28. Tie your flies on wide eye hooks if you have problems "threading the needle". If the fly is sunken and not being dragged through the water you are doing it right. The lesson to be learned from the two comments by guys who know what they're doing is that presentation is KING. Tippet size? Not so much!
Ken
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Thank you for reminding me that I am way, way too weighted down. Time to lighten my carry as well. Thanks.
I am going to update my perspective on tippet. I do use 6x but only for nymph fishing because it helps sink the little guys (18 and under) noticeably quicker on a short tight-lined drift-I did pick that up from the Euro guys and it makes sense.
For dry fly I probably ran out of 5x twice this season (fished a fair amount and 10 days in the Rockies and Yellowstone) and subbed 4x when that happened. I saw no noticeable difference in presentation so long as I kept the tippets longer. Fishing a bwo hatch on the Madison in Yellowstone and running out of 5x reduced both my brother and I to 4x with 20 and 22 bugs. Neither of us wanted to chance losing a good wild fish in the weeds on 6x. He is notorious for 4 foot and longer tippets regardless of the situation and he out-fished me 2-1 on some really nice browns and bows that day. I checked out his presentation and noticed his tippet was flopping into a messy pile of curves. We fished the same pattern (#20 snowshoe dun baetis ) and he crushed me into being a spectator. I looked at his rig and it was a 9ft 4 x leader with an additional 5 feet of 4x. I was in the 3 foot range on the 4x and laying out wayyyy too straight a cast. Lesson learned - we went back to the same general area a couple nights later in the week and I had some nice new 5x tippet (4foot at least on the tippet) and took one of my largest dry fly fish in quite a few years but most importantly the score stayed a lot closer to even!
Flyingslanted,
I know someone who carries a thousand flies with him when he hits the river!
BobT,
4x with size 20 and 22 dries. Conventional wisdom takes it on the chin again. I like long tippets too but always tried to avoid the "messy pile of curves". I guess it doesn't make that much diifference.
Ken
George Harvey was a big proponent of "messy piles of curves" but not extra light tippet. His leader designs flat out work for dries!
Anonymous 1:21
George knew his stuff!!
Ken
Good read, Thanks for sharing.
JJ
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