Autumn On The EB

Autumn On The EB

Thursday, November 21, 2019

Copper Grouse vs Partridge And Red, Rod Care And Book Me

"If I'm not going to catch anything then I'd rather not catch anything on flies". - Bob Lawless




It's that time of year when the weather is still fishable (much like early April) but it's been months with the same techniques and flies and I needed to shake things up. No, I'm not on the streamer bandwagon because I like small flies and light lines and light rods. So we change up the fly recipes and see what happens.

As I mentioned in the last two blog posts I worked up two flies - The Copper and Grouse and the Partridge and Red. I fished the P & R first through a 50 yard section twice and took 3 brook trout between 6 and 8 inches.  Then I switched over to the Copper and Grouse, fished the same water where I took 2 brookies between 11 and 14 inches.  All this took a bit over 2 hours.



What does all this mean????  Answer = NOTHING!!!  It's just me entertaining myself.  Both flies will work at any time.



Broken Rods Again

Yup, I read AGAIN where another angler broke ANOTHER nymph rod!!! Without a doubt this style of construction has not stood the test of time and we as rod owners practice some careless habits that hastens a rods death and that's why I think it's a good idea to reprint a post from a while ago on this subject.








It was May of 2017 when the end came. The rod broke in mid section while casting a soft hackle on the Bliss Pool. I will say that it was a memorable occasion BECAUSE I was into my 14th year with that 8 foot, 4wt graphite rod and it was the only time a rod of mine broke while in the act of fishing! The rod was built by a club member and I won it in a raffle and its sweet moderate action made it my "go to" Swift River rod or whenever I knew that I would not be casting bead heads and such. ( I leave that task to the stouter rods). I put lots of mileage on my rods, easily more than the average angler, but I am careful with what I do. That's why I'm still fishing 10 year old rods (and catching fish!!)

Operator Error or Material/Design Flaw??

It's almost always operator error and I'm not taking about car doors, trunk lids or ceiling fans but the careless things we do while in waders. (I'll discuss design failure later) Here's a good list:

Candy Cane Rod -

You've seen this and you may be guilty of it too. You are bringing in a trout with your rod held at the high NOON position so that the tip is horribly stressed.  It will break then or 200 casts later and we will blame the rod company but it's really our fault. Now, years ago in the age of bamboo and fiberglass rods were always shorter so netting a trout was much easier. Now we have 10 and 11 foot rods which makes it harder to reach the fish with a net. The result is to Candy Cane the rod. Instead, hold the rod behind you as you extend your net arm so that the rod forms a sloping arc. That way you are fishing a "shorter" rod putting the fish closer to you.

Ultra long rods  can present problems for the short armed, vertically challenged among us.  One solution is to hire a gillie!!!

Death By Beadhead

Before beadheads came around we added weight by wrapping lead wire on the hook shank and then cushioned it with dubbing and wraps of material.  Then we began to see (well, I think so) an increase in breakage especially in the tip section. I knew a saltwater guide whose clients broke four quality loaner rods one season learning to cast clousers!!!  The beadhead fly can hit speeds of 200 mph on the cast! All it needs is to just touch the rod tip and you will have a broken rod either then or later when it finally fails. That's why that special rod of mine lasted so long - no beadheads!!!!

Seating Ferrules 

Make it a habit to check the seating of your ferrules during the day on a river.  A loose ferrule will weaken the wall strength of a graphite or glass rod.  AND DON'T TWIST THEM ON!!! Push together, push apart and that's it. Twisting will also weaken the wall strength and you may have a devil of a time taking the rod apart.

Don't Walk With The Rod Tip Behind You

Two fly fishers were walking along a river, one behind the other. The first one had his rod pointing behind him.  He suddenly stopped walking but the guy behind him didn't and rear ended him breaking the guys rod tip. The rod tip is the most fragile part of the rod and I want to know where it is all of the times. So, rod tips first!!!

Or Material Design Flaws And The Problem With Warranties 

As I said most rod failures are due to operator error but one has to take a long look at the design of many rods, especially the nymph variety. They are stretched out to 10 feet and over 11 feet in some models. They are incredibly light with sensitive tips and if what I see on internet searches is to be believed they have a fairly high failure rate. It appears that they just don't stand up to fly fishing.  Here is my suggestion: If you want a new rod then search the web for everything about it for breakage (those forums are loaded with info.) and if you see more than two complaints about breakage then find another rod company.

So what's wrong with warranties? Actually everything!  Let's say you buy a rod for $800 and it breaks in half on the first day out (this happens, check the web). You send the rod back with $50 and wait for the repair or replacement. In the meantime you are saying things like "$50, that's reasonable".  Did it ever dawn on you that part of that $800 price tag may have been made up by factoring in the cost of the warranty.  Maybe you are paying on it twice! Remember, the rod companies are NOT going to loose money on you!!!

I like an honest warranty that covers materials and workmanship only. The fly fishing industry sailed over the Falls when it offered  "no questions asked about the dumb ass way you mishandled the rod" kind of warranty. Maybe we would appreciate the craftsmanship more and take better care of rods if they were not so easily replaced!  


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9 comments:

Sam said...

Ken,

Like many others, I appreciate your web site a great deal for many reasons. I am in one of those unfortunate stretches where I am unable to fish, but reading your posts fills the void just a little bit, seeing pictures of nice trout, fly tying ideas and fishing stories from you and your readers here.

Earlier this week I was in the Sacramento area with our rep and we drove by a reservoir that had a bottom draw stream coming out of it called Putah Creek. At one of the pull overs we pulled off so I could take a look. At the end of the path was a nice pool where trout were rising to midges. That was a welcome sight! A couple of anglers were making their way down to the zone and I trust they had good action.

Regards, Sam

Anonymous said...

Hi Ken,
Thanks, as always, for the post. The section on breaking/defective rods prompted me to write on another, yet related, product: leaking fishing waders. I'm looking for some input/feedback from other readers/anglers.
I've spent just under $375.00 combined over the past four years on two pairs of waders and both pairs have ended up leaking into their second year (and after the one year warranty expires). My current pair, store brand Cabela's Neoprene, started leaking in the crotch seam and never stopped. They also leaked along the right leg seam. I tried to repair them with the "patch kit" but it offered only temporary relief. This isn't a deal breaker May-August but when I fly-fished last weekend at Cliff Pond in Brewster I got drenched and froze my tail off in 35 degree weather [btw I took seven 14-16" 'bows, all on Ghost streamers - my buddies caught another 34 all on power bait, which I refuse to use]. But, I've had enough.

I'm wondering if you or your readers have any suggestions for QUALITY waders that won't leak? While I won't say money is no object, I recognize and am willing to spend much more money to guarantee that I can stay dry and warm for a product that I won't have to replace in 18 months.
Thanks,
Tom From Boston

Millers River Flyfisher said...

Tom From Boston,

Do what I do. I use flex Seal spray for pinhole leaks and flex seal tape for bigger holes. It works every time. You don't have to send away for it any longer because Walmart and CVS carry it.

BTW, ALL waders leak. I buy waders at Sierra Trading Post. Quality breathable waders for around $70 and they last as long as any and with flex seal I have no worries.

And I don't get paid or get free stuff for endorsing them.

Ken

Sam,

Unknown said...

Best to buy two pairs of moderate priced waders so that when one is being patched you can keep on fishing. Biggest issue I have with waders are slow seam leaks and not the obvious gushers! Takes a while to find those buggers just like a roof leak!

Anonymous said...

Hi Ken,
I hit the Swift yesterday for a beautiful afternoon of dry fly fishing with my good friend Ricky Bobby. What a treat to have a solid BWO hatch underway as well as a crazy midge hatch. Fish were rising solidly from 12:30-3:00 and we were mostly catching brookies with an occasional nice 'bow mixed in. We were in the "tweener" zone below the tree pool. How lucky to be on that river in mid-late November and catch a full afternoon of surface action. That will cure whatever ails you!

I'm not sure if the flies we were using would fit into the category of flies you a are sick of, but if so, this kind of fun will more that over-ride the potential monotony of fishing the same patterns!! We were basically working successfully with three patterns - size 18-20 parachute adams, 18-20 BWO parachutes and finally, a size 26 simulian emerger pattern that has a small tuft of CDC to keep it sitting right in the film.

In terms of waders, while not cheap, I have had very good luck with Redington Sonic Pro HDZ. I have also successfully used flex seal to close holes in the leg areas and in the neoprene booties. I've found that when you get abrasion type wear and tear over larger areas around the knees those are a little bit harder to fix and it usually means time for new waders.

Best regards,
Paul

Charles said...

As always, a great blog and comments. Re waders: four years ago I bought the low-end waders from L.L Bean. Fished regularly since then, with not a single leak; and that includes falling down the embankment at Kempfield, as well as stumbling over one of the big rocks in the upper. EB.
Charles

Gary said...

Red, red, you know who liked red the brookies in the riffle below the duck pond this morning, what fun. Oh the usual places, packed.

Millers River Flyfisher said...

Gary,

Nobody fishes there anymore, just you and me.

Charles,

Once went through two Bean high end waders in one year. Luck of the draw I guess.

Ken

Paul Fay said...

I've fished a claret and partridge on the squanny for hendrickson events and it works wonders!!! Squanacook is a great place to work the soft hackle flies!!!