"Basically all a noodle rod is is a fly rod with a spinning handle" - Anonymous post on a steelhead forum.
The first time I saw one of these outfits was on the Stillwater River during the Fall salmon run. It was at least 10 feet long and fairly soft after the middle of the rod and was loaded with, what looked like, 4X mono with some kind of nymph at the business end. It was, in my opinion, too long for a tiny (and CROWDED) stream like the Stillwater but I could see where the owner of one of these rods could walk right up to the Y Pool and, using the same logic (?) that guides the DFW(?), tie on a PT Nymph and start fishing. Current regs forbid that. One has to use conventional fly fishing gear (it says) to fish there along with tenkara fishers who do not use conventional gear.
Let's muddy the waters a bit more. Tightline angling is, for the most part, fishing with MONO. In some waters mono leaders cannot exceed certain lengths and many of the fly reels there are loaded to the max with mono and far outcast Tenkara guys.
The Flymph
We should make this simple. The determining factor as far as legal fishing goes on C&R waters should be this:
1. Use ANY fishing equipment that you like but NO BAIT. You can use a spinning rod, a bobber and an artificial fly. That's what indicator flyfishers basically do.
2. Single, barbless hooks only
3. This makes the regs simple and enforcable!!
If you think I'm going overboard on this wait until you see my next suggestion.
Ken
12 comments:
As always, very thought provoking Ken! Glad you’re on the mend and hope to see you back in action soon!
Hambone
Hope all is well. As we near the end of brookie spawning time, do they behave like other post-spawn fish and 'put on the feed' as they begin to drop back? Thanks, Ken.
Swift River Swiftie
Hambone,
Thank you!!
Swift River Swiftie,
Sorry to say but the "put on the feed bag" stage is more myth then anything else. Trout consume the vast amount of calories in the Spring through the early Summer. Water temperature governs this. When the water begines to cool off their need for food becomes less. They are cold blooded).
Ken
You are not wrong Ken! Single barbless hook, artificial lures only is the way to go. That accomplishes what the DFW wants and lets more people enjoy the resource.
Sound suggestion.
What if someone used a 1wt fly line, 10ft of leader and tight line nymphed ? It’s not so much that it’s mono, but the weight of the leader. Just saying the argument gets slippery.
Hi Ken - hope you’re doing well! Any experience or thoughts regarding Centerpin fishing in the area of the Y-Pool and dead arm on the Swift? I seem to recall seeing someone (may have been Swift River Swiftie) using this technique with moderate success a few years back. Thanks for your always enlightening comments!
Anonymous 1:37pm
It was about 5 or so years ago that I saw one of the Swifts best flyfishers with a fly rod and reel loaded with mono that fell into a stripping basket. He had a very heavy streamer that he would "bow and arrow" cast an easy 30 feet. Was he fly fishing? Maybe but I wouldn't do it.
Ken
If you allowed center pinning at the Y pool then you should allow bottom bouncing aka chuck and duck techniques as well then it will be true combat fishing😛😂😂😂🙃
Center pinning is already allowed, just no bait and flies only. Ditch the emogies!!!
Ken
Just to set the record straight, I am not a proponent of center-pinning nor have I 'center-pinned'.
SW Swiftie
I’ll vouch for SW Swiftie! I’ve had the pleasure of fishing with Swiftie at the Y-pool on dozens of occasions and you sir are not a center-pin practitioner!
Hambone
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